Comments on: ATVFlash – playing fair? https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/ Get more from your shiny box of joy: Taking Apple TVs to the next level Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:07:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jenith Pamela https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-249737 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:07:36 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-249737 Nice! Now I know what to do, thank you! And as this information is educational so this site has been added to my RSS feed for later browsing. To know more about
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By: Mark https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-70165 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:12:04 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-70165 They can charge whatever they want to, guys…is just business at the end of the day

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By: Chas https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-62089 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:18:22 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-62089 I am using ATVPATCH and for $20 (especially with the UK exchange rates) is quite a good deal. It enables everything I need. I do not see how ATVFLASH can charge $50 for exactly the same thing.

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By: Dietbert https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-61767 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:15:20 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-61767 I just got a subscription on atvpatch.com (was atv4windows.com) (I think thats the same business, other people) and got my patchstickimage as download for $20 and for THAT Price is ok compared to the work I do not have with building the Stick. but $60 is toomuch for me.

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By: pigumon https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-59865 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:29:15 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-59865 Um… Has no one been to the site lately?

The reason they stopped shipping flash drive with 2.2 is that they are now doing “bring your own flash drive” and instant download version 3.0!!!

=)

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By: Bill https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-59568 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:00:47 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-59568 Well, after spending some time, with a Tiger disk, that I borrowed from a friend I now know it is not all that easy to just go and make a patchstick. First off you need the install disk from and OS you never owned. Then you borrow it, only to find that the files you need aren’t in the packages you think they are supposed to be in.

Many of us are new Apple owners and we don’t have Tiger disks, so we can’t just go out and make a patchstick. We aren’t lazy, we just need to be able to get all of the files we need, and this is impossible for us to do.

Frankly, I would rather give some guy the money for doing this, rather than have to search the net for a bunch of files that aren’t in the package that Awkward says there in.

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By: vakantie https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-58684 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:17:53 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-58684 I must say this is apple at its top. We “fan’s” have to pay to get the best from apple. I love the fruity computer brand, but can’t the do something for the apple community once.

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By: void https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-58679 Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:31:27 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-58679 Value-adding software by offering it up for as a combo of hardware/service for is ok. Many of us are not geeks with tons of time. We just want plug’n’play. If developers want in on the action, go for it and we’ll buy it from them. If not, shut up.

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By: Dag68 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-57138 Sat, 31 May 2008 04:34:37 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-57138 PS: I’m thrilled that I can stop converting everything into one apple’s chosen codecs just to view it on my TV

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By: Dag68 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-57137 Sat, 31 May 2008 04:30:42 +0000 https://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/05/28/atvflash-playing-fair/#comment-57137 Well, I moved quickly enough, my ATV patchstick arrive today and I’ve installed it and got just about everything up and running. I’m very happy with the value for cost. Installation went without a hitch and I didn’t have to spend a week reading forum post to learn how. Any complaints I have now are with the particular pieces of software (Couch surfer – I want to change the display font or the resolution!)

I’ve hacked most every piece of hardware I’ve bought , including my iPhone, ReplayTV, Motorola Razr and several other phones, Virgin Webplayer, I-Opener, Cue Cat and god knows what else. I suck with a solder gun but have managed to build a 9v usb charger in an altoids tin, mod an old mouse into a gaming spinner and wire a Mame control panel. I’ve rarely bricked anything irrevocably but I’ve been so happy with my AppleTV that I was reluctant to attack it without some careful in depth study and I lack the time for that study. The ATV patchstick is the perfect solution and well worth the $60 idiot tax (I’d rather call it the “my life is to busy” tax.

I know that folks have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours developing these hacks but you know what, not everyone has the knowledge and/or training to do these kind of hacks unsupported and I for one think its fine for them to take the shortcut. Isn’t what we do about expanding the box (whichever box happens to be in hand) and opening it up. Why keep that from all but the “worthy” who are willing to climb a technical mountain to gain nirvanna? That sounds like BS from people who didn’t develop the hacks themselves but want to feel special because they’ve got the skills to apply them.

I understand people getting hot about the $$$ charged, but 60 bucks isn’t a lot for the value of making this easy and if it was, no one would buy. I expect they did some real work to automate the install and make it safe (ish?). If they charged $60 for you to ship your AppleTV to them and install the hacks for you, I don’t think many would find that excessive or dishonest. That should be their next business model, offered in conjunction with their hard drive upgrade service.

My only disappointment is that I may lose out on my anticipated year of upgrades that was supposed to be included in my $60. I’m sure I still qualify for upgrades, but I don’t know if any will come out. But now that I’ve got SFTP access, hopefully I can roll with the punches!

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